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Impressed by Army Recruiting

Post by gabn92 » Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:11 pm

Just read Sal's blog update on Army recruits reporting today. I was impressed by the number of recruits that also had offers from Navy and Air Force, yet chose Army. Anecdotally, it seems like Army won a lot more of those this year than in the past.

Any of you out there watching the recruiting stats more closely able to give some facts to that impression? Is Army "winning" more of the recruiting battles over Navy and AF than in the past?



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Post by gaetano01 » Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:53 pm

79 recruits for one sport. Out of a total class of 1200. Excessive and indefensible.

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Post by admin » Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:03 pm

Here's a link to info/video on each player. USMA didn't include HT/WTs and position in their release so I put in their hudl sizes/position (for the most part). Videos for all but one player.

LINK: http://army.academywars.com/856/army-fo ... men-class/

Here's one guy that has caught my eye. A ball hawk, Malkelm Morrison, from New York.


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Re: Impressed by Army Recruiting

Post by wpgrad » Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:08 pm

If you are gonna have a D1 program, have a D1 program. Period. End of story

If monken thinks it takes 79, fine. Bring in 79

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Post by gaetano01 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:13 am

wpgrad wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:08 pm
If you are gonna have a D1 program, have a D1 program. Period. End of story

If monken thinks it takes 79, fine. Bring in 79
Sounds good -- a non-Service Academy D1 program brings in 23 recruits per year, give or take. Period. End of story.

Who runs the place?


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Post by admin » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:15 am

Football players make good soldiers; just ask Douglas MacArthur. Oh, he ain't around anymore.

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Re: Impressed by Army Recruiting

Post by gabn92 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:07 am

Gaetano...those recruiting numbers are about the same as historic norms (at least the past 3-4 decades) and are the same at all 3 service academies.

The academies are doing great producing leaders for our military and in fielding a wide variety of athletic teams...it could be argued that the football team actually helps fund and support many of those other activities due to the revenue it brings in.
Comparing a service academy to other D1 programs is comparing apples and oranges. Much higher attrition at an academy due to the demands and rigors places on the cadets.

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Re: Impressed by Army Recruiting

Post by PrideandDream » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:03 am

As opposed to what Gaetano??? Recruiting 25 and only having 5-6 by their Junior year? We recruit for every sport. You are okay with recruiting all the females for Tennis and Soccer and Swimming or other males for Golf, Gymnastics, Baseball, Basketball, Track, etc???? We have the largest number of NCAA sports of any school in America. The truth is that a larger percentage of the Corps is recruited for sports. Just none as visible as football.

A counter argument might be, why do we admit young men and women who aren't NCAA caliber athletes?? The idea that every cadet is an athlete exists for a reason and it has to do with way more than just physical fitness.

We've recruited large numbers during all times of successful football at USMA as well so does Navy and Air Force to account for attrition and injury as well as to give ourselves a chance to develop players over their 4 years to compete.

In the end they all come on their own accord. They all know what they are signing up for and the Academy is well aware of their qualifications as candidates.

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Don't waste your ink P&D....

Post by ARMORMAN » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:04 pm

"Gaetano" is symptomatic of everything we've had to overcome the last 2 decades. Utterly out of touch with Intercollegiate football in general and Army football in particular. No concept whatsoever of how incredibly difficult it is for Academies to compete and zero appreciation for how important it is to be successful as regards Academy image and cadet leader development. Like I said, don't waste the ink....

Just be continually thankful that we have the Caslens, Monkens (and hopefully) Williams of the world in charge now.

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Re: Don't waste your ink P&D....

Post by wpgrad » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:18 pm

ARMORMAN wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:04 pm
"Gaetano" is symptomatic of everything we've had to overcome the last 2 decades. Utterly out of touch with Intercollegiate football in general and Army football in particular. No concept whatsoever of how incredibly difficult it is for Academies to compete and zero appreciation for how important it is to be successful as regards Academy image and cadet leader development. Like I said, don't waste the ink....

Just be continually thankful that we have the Caslens, Monkens (and hopefully) Williams of the world in charge now.

Amen


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