Gee, I wonder if they would deny Notre Dame a bowl game if they only won only 5 bowl eligible games this year.
Ah, NO.
Politics as usual I would think.
Gee, I wonder if they would deny Notre Dame a bowl game if they only won only 5 bowl eligible games this year.
It is really hard to not agree with this. A win over Navy makes Army 4-6 against FBS teams and just does not make them deserving of the chance to go to a bowl game. While it is easy to point to the two FCS games on the schedule, we have to admit that had Army played Tennessee this season, they would be going into the Navy game with a 4-7 record.
Like it or not—look at the data over the years. Northern FCS teams buy tickets, and are often our best attended games, and are typically easy wins. I dont see them going anywhereJustafan11 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:23 pm I think the point of my post is being missed. I'm not arguing the merits of this year's team regarding bowl eligibility. Besides, Tennessee put us in a situation where we needed to fill our schedule with a team that had an open date. Turns out that was Villanova. I'm arguing the merits of our schedule in general. Do we really need Delaware State and Holy Cross next year or Dartmouth in 2024. With two open dates remaining in 2024 I could only imagine what Community College team might be available. 2025 includes Marist and Lehigh. Our team and fans deserve better. We don't have to play Alabama or Georgia but we could still do a better job with the schedule. I'm sure getting teams from the area or region might add more people to our attendance figure but it does nothing to enhance our program. We win - we're supposed to. We lose - we'll be a laughing stock. Scheduling these teams just makes no sense.
Money talks, for sure. I don’t know how to prove this, but I’m pretty sure we drew more Villanova fans to Michie this year than they usually get in their own stadium. I could say the same for last year’s UMass game at Michie compared to this year in Amherst, but I realize they’re an FBS team.wpgrad wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:02 amLike it or not—look at the data over the years. Northern FCS teams buy tickets, and are often our best attended games, and are typically easy wins. I dont see them going anywhereJustafan11 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:23 pm I think the point of my post is being missed. I'm not arguing the merits of this year's team regarding bowl eligibility. Besides, Tennessee put us in a situation where we needed to fill our schedule with a team that had an open date. Turns out that was Villanova. I'm arguing the merits of our schedule in general. Do we really need Delaware State and Holy Cross next year or Dartmouth in 2024. With two open dates remaining in 2024 I could only imagine what Community College team might be available. 2025 includes Marist and Lehigh. Our team and fans deserve better. We don't have to play Alabama or Georgia but we could still do a better job with the schedule. I'm sure getting teams from the area or region might add more people to our attendance figure but it does nothing to enhance our program. We win - we're supposed to. We lose - we'll be a laughing stock. Scheduling these teams just makes no sense.
It seems like too many fans believe FBS schedule making is easy. Just for starters, football is harder than any other sport based on the long-term nature of the game. The UMass AD talked about this problem during the broadcast last week. Secondly, many of the schools you mentioned above may not even want to play Army, regardless of where it falls in their season. Finally, Army had one of the best administrators of all time doing our FB scheduling for many years, until he left for the head job at LeMoyne. We definitely lost in a big way when Bob Beretta left us in early 2021.Justafan11 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:58 pm If this is true I'm down right angry! I've been arguing this point for years. There are plenty of big name teams that continually struggle with their football program. Indiana (basketball school), Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Stanford (academics). Even regional teams such as Temple, Marshall, Maryland, etc. But no Army continues down this "we don't want anyone to notice us" path. I posted about a month ago asking who Army would fill with their open dates for 2023. Guess what - we got Delaware State and Holy Cross! Looking ahead to next year's schedule I'd say our chances of being in a bowl game are probably way less than 50/50. Please fire the guy making out our schedule - it's disgusting!
RABBLE wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 5:50 pm We just did not play well enough to qualify for a bowl. i hate to say that this season was a big disappointment since the schedule this year was not all that difficult. The injuries to key personnel, Tyrell Robinson for just one example, destroyed our chances. The inexperience of our OL was another. Still another was our inability of naming one starting QB and staying with him thru the entire schedule. Graduation and the lack of qualitative replacements also hurt our chances.
I never liked the idea of Division 1 being split into FBS and FCS. No reason for it. Play who you want to play and let the folks who decide who plays be the final decision make in the bowls.
If Army decides to play as many as they want of FCS teams, so be it. Why penalize any team in DIVISION 1 for the present ruling?
If Army plays a Delaware State or a Holy Cross, so what? We play LSU and Syracuse to balance it out.
They don't pull this nonsense in BASKETBALL, do they? ALL TEAMS open with stiffs earlier in the season before conference play begins in January. yet these teams are never really punished because anybody still has a chance to win their conference and advanced to the NCAA championships.
It should be nothing more than the strength of schedule the way I see it in football, like Basketball is now.
If you are DIVISION 1 you are exactly that. This idea of splitting them in two and are punished for it is nonsense.
Pretty sure we would have taken the L there, no?
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