We've just lost Champ Harris and Tano Letuli

[thedoc85]

As per Sal----both players are transferring.

[PrideandDream]

IMO not a loss. Champ Harris wants to throw the ball. This year proved we aren't going to do that.

[RABBLE]

Ah !! That transfer portal !!
You want to play somewhere else??
Sit out a year and watch the grass grow.
Then you can play some football.
I'm tired of some of these clowns going to the academies, wasting their time and our tax dollars and going someplace else. Let them pay back every damn nickel we spent on them.
And this NIL rule. Drop it and just smile in a mirror, intake all your charm, and go out and just play for the school of your choice and drop the bull dust.

[kfan12]

IMO not a loss. Champ Harris wants to throw the ball. This year proved we aren't going to do that.

Seems a good idea to have a QB around who can throw the ball when you need to. Having one-dimensional QBs has caused us plenty of problems when Army gets behind the chains or behind on the scoreboard. We threw 14 times against Navy, so I don’t think the coaches agree that we aren’t going to do that.

Ah !! That transfer portal !!
You want to play somewhere else??
Sit out a year and watch the grass grow.
Then you can play some football.
I'm tired of some of these clowns going to the academies, wasting their time and our tax dollars and going someplace else. Let them pay back every damn nickel we spent on them.
And this NIL rule. Drop it and just smile in a mirror, intake all your charm, and go out and just play for the school of your choice and drop the bull dust.

We can be a bit more gracious when young cadets decide to depart the pattern. They do so for a variety of reasons: depression caused by the grey days of winter, academics, some decide Army life isn’t for them, etc. A large percentage of folks who leave do so between end of plebe year and beginning of cow year, so this is the right time to do it and avoid further commitment. FB players are a small percentage of those who choose to leave, so we probably should just wish them well.

NIL has little to nothing to do with these guys in any case, they don’t have NIL recognition to sell coming off the bench at Army.

[PrideandDream]

So one I'm not totally convinced Harris's transfer is just football based.

Two, I was very unimpressed with his running. As for being one dimensional we don't need a thrower who can't pound away between the tackles. He was just as one dimensional as Daily but worse becuase his dimension was passing.

PD

[Dong Fong '09]

Best of luck. Was hoping he would put on a few pounds and develop the next two years for us.

I’m always curious what the opportunities are out there. West Point is often the only place a lot of these kids can actually play quarterback at at the D1 level (like daily). Wouldn’t be surprised if champ Harris never got the chance to play another meaningful snap at the D1 level again, but I hope he goes off and does well.

[RABBLE]

IMO not a loss. Champ Harris wants to throw the ball. This year proved we aren't going to do that.

Seems a good idea to have a QB around who can throw the ball when you need to. Having one-dimensional QBs has caused us plenty of problems when Army gets behind the chains or behind on the scoreboard. We threw 14 times against Navy, so I don’t think the coaches agree that we aren’t going to do that.

Ah !! That transfer portal !!
You want to play somewhere else??
Sit out a year and watch the grass grow.
Then you can play some football.
I'm tired of some of these clowns going to the academies, wasting their time and our tax dollars and going someplace else. Let them pay back every damn nickel we spent on them.
And this NIL rule. Drop it and just smile in a mirror, intake all your charm, and go out and just play for the school of your choice and drop the bull dust.

We can be a bit more gracious when young cadets decide to depart the pattern. They do so for a variety of reasons: depression caused by the grey days of winter, academics, some decide Army life isn’t for them, etc. A large percentage of folks who leave do so between end of plebe year and beginning of cow year, so this is the right time to do it and avoid further commitment. FB players are a small percentage of those who choose to leave, so we probably should just wish them well.

NIL has little to nothing to do with these guys in any case, they don’t have NIL recognition to sell coming off the bench at Army.

OK, I am not so gracious. Tell the kid to pay back in dollars for the education he already received. Any other kid pays for his education. I am not so soft when somebody bails. When he pays, then I will wish him well.
Nobody gets a free lunch in this world. NOBODY.

[Armyfaninpa]

Can someone fill me in on when signing day is and the date of Army announcing the change of offensive scheme? It seems to me that the under center was the scheme in place at the time the incoming class made their commitments. Unless I have it mixed up, Harris was fully aware that he was entering a program that considered the forward pass to be a trick play but still wanted to throw the ball.

[ArmyRoadFan7]

Harris said he would have never come to Army if they were still running the flexbone. The Coastal game is probably what made up his mind.

[kfan12]

.

OK, I am not so gracious. Tell the kid to pay back in dollars for the education he already received. Any other kid pays for his education. I am not so soft when somebody bails. When he pays, then I will wish him well.
Nobody gets a free lunch in this world. NOBODY.

Fortunately, or unfortunately from your perspective, Cadets do not incur an obligation before they start their third year, and apparently that isn't being enforced with any vigor at the moment in any case. Hard to say football players should incur that commitment even though no one else would.