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Re: Bowl game set
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:18 pm
by Oliphant
kfan12 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:20 pm
Oliphant wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:38 am
kfan12 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:45 am
In hindsight, don't you find this a bit silly? "
Navy will end up with more prestige this bowl season than us."
Not at all. A bowl win over Oklahoma routs a victory over Marshall and will be more remembered.
Next year, people will know who won the AAC championship. Only Navy and Oklahoma will remember Navy being smoked by Oklahoma. Prestige, really?
Most people don't know who won the 2023 AAC Championship.
Beating Oklahoma will resonate more with casual fans. It just will. But I see now we are in the coping and defensive portion of the grief process.
It is a lousy bowl with a lame matchup and completely undeserving but we can tell ourselves we did the right and honorable thing by making a mid-tier bowl happy.
Re: Bowl game set
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:19 pm
by Oliphant
neumanna1 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:35 pm
Tons of guys from Oklahoma will be in the transfer portal too I'm sure. Or just opting out of the bowl if they have NFL aspirations this spring. If Navy wins, you can say "Hey, we beat the uniform" but in all reality the days of valuable non CFP bowl wins are probably gone. Maybe if Army played like Alabama that would be a different story, and I wish they were playing a more prestigious name in their bowl (or at least a full-strength Marshall team).
If Army wins Saturday, and wins their bowl big over a skeleton Marshall team, they'll be 13-1 with the CIC and a Conference Title, and probably end up ranked in the top 15. If Navy beats what would end up being a 6-7 Oklahoma team, sure it's better than if they beat Western Michigan or something, but it's not suddenly going to make their season better than Army's single-handedly.
And the average fan just sees Navy over Oklahoma.
Re: Bowl game set
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:21 pm
by neumanna1
Oliphant wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:19 pm
neumanna1 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:35 pm
Tons of guys from Oklahoma will be in the transfer portal too I'm sure. Or just opting out of the bowl if they have NFL aspirations this spring. If Navy wins, you can say "Hey, we beat the uniform" but in all reality the days of valuable non CFP bowl wins are probably gone. Maybe if Army played like Alabama that would be a different story, and I wish they were playing a more prestigious name in their bowl (or at least a full-strength Marshall team).
If Army wins Saturday, and wins their bowl big over a skeleton Marshall team, they'll be 13-1 with the CIC and a Conference Title, and probably end up ranked in the top 15. If Navy beats what would end up being a 6-7 Oklahoma team, sure it's better than if they beat Western Michigan or something, but it's not suddenly going to make their season better than Army's single-handedly.
And the average fan just sees Navy over Oklahoma.
And what tangible benefit do they get from that?
Re: Bowl game set
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:26 pm
by Army Frog Fan
Oliphant wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:18 pm
kfan12 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:20 pm
Oliphant wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:38 am
Not at all. A bowl win over Oklahoma routs a victory over Marshall and will be more remembered.
Next year, people will know who won the AAC championship. Only Navy and Oklahoma will remember Navy being smoked by Oklahoma. Prestige, really?
Most people don't know who won the 2023 AAC Championship.
Beating Oklahoma will resonate more with casual fans. It just will. But I see now we are in the coping and defensive portion of the grief process.
It is a lousy bowl with a lame matchup and completely undeserving but we can tell ourselves we did the right and honorable thing by making a mid-tier bowl happy.
No one remembers what bowl Mizzou played in a few years back, or that Army beat them. No one will remember Navy or Tulane’s bowl results in 12-18 month either.