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Formerly a pure "School for Soldiers", formerly America's "Sparta", West Point is evolving to become the tip of the Political Correctness spear, and it makes me puke.

Have a limited harassment problem? Yeah, well, let's drop a nuclear bomb on it. Let's change the entire warrior culture. Let's have bureaucrats and feminists redefine manliness and the ingredients necessary for effective combat leaders. Let's de-fang the sheepdogs while the wolves circle the flock. Let's just have women, and women with a penis as cadets. It's a public institution, so let's play with it! Social experimentation is fun. After all, what's at stake?.........







West Point Tackles 'Toxic Masculinity'


“I’m being taught how not to be a man.”
Mon Feb 10, 2020
Mark Tapson
Mark Tapson is the Shillman Fellow on Popular Culture for the David Horowitz Freedom Center.



If you are a good, committed cultural Marxist and your mission is to help dismantle the cultural, economic, and power structures in the capitalist West from within, how do you undertake such a grand task? How do you subvert an entire civilization? You undermine its foundations, and the most basic building block of all is the nuclear family. To deconstruct the family successfully, you must subvert masculinity, because masculinity is the warrior spirit of that nuclear family. To emasculate a civilization, you indoctrinate its youth to believe that the natural traits typically associated with masculinity – such as aggression, competitiveness, and emotional self-control – are poisonous to society and even to boys and men themselves. You convince men – especially society’s warriors – to reject their very nature altogether.
This January, cadets at West Point, the United States Military Academy, were required to attend educational events for “Honorable Living Day,” the academy’s third such day hosted during the short tenure of Superintendent Lt. Gen. Darryl A. Williams. The first was held last February and focused on eliminating sexual assault and harassment at the academy, which has been co-ed since 1976. The second, held last semester, called upon cadets, staff and faculty to improve the culture in order to combat sexual assault further.
At this most recent Honorable Living Day, the goal was to “expand the discussion beyond sexual assault and talk about how all aspects of the community can come together and promote an atmosphere of honorable living to include diversity, inclusion and acceptance of people from differing backgrounds, races and genders.” Lt. Gen. Williams described the curriculum as being “connected” to improving combat readiness.
Eradicating any sexual assaults or harassment at West Point is a worthy goal. They shouldn’t be tolerated in any work or study environment. Encouraging cadets to live with personal integrity and to treat others according to the content of their character and not the color of their skin are also vital aims. But if reports from several male West Point cadets are true, there appears to be more going on in this past Honorable Living Day than meets the eye. Breitbart News reported that it received comments from some cadets, on condition of anonymity, complaining that the program went beyond merely discouraging sexual harassment. As one cadet put it: “I’m being taught how not to be a man.”
The day’s schedule included discussion groups led by upper-class cadets who referred to “toxic masculinity,” which is the notion, rapidly becoming a household phrase, that our traditional understanding of masculinity is a sexist, violent social construct that is harmful to men themselves as well as to others, and must be acculturated out of existence. Those who push this concept insist that the label does not mean that masculinity itself is toxic, but in fact that is exactly what they mean, because they never concede that there are any positive characteristics of masculinity, and their only solution for it is to replace it with characteristics stereotypically attributed to women: empathetic, emotionally open, and conciliatory. The whole aim of indoctrinating young men about their “toxic masculinity” is to convince them that their very nature is problematic for society and therefore they must act more feminine (meanwhile, our culture pushes women to adopt all the character traits of the most “toxic” men: aggression, hyper-competitiveness, crudity, and promiscuity).
West Point cadets were required to view Miss Representation and The Mask You Live In, two documentary films produced by Jennifer Siebel Newsom, the wife of Gavin Newsom, a California Governor so leftist he makes former Governor Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown look like former Governor Ronald Reagan. I have seen both these films.
Miss Representation examines “the ways in which mainstream media and culture contribute to the underrepresentation of women in positions of power and influence,” according to its website. It features commentary from such experts on masculinity as Cory “Spartacus” Booker, Nancy Pelosi, Katie Couric, Jane Fonda, Rachel Maddow, Rosie O’Donnell, and Gloria Steinem. Needless to say, these far-left ideologues have no inspirational insights to offer West Point’s male cadets (or the female cadets, for that matter).
The Mask You Live In focuses on the false “masks” of masculinity that boys and young men are pressured to wear in order to be considered men. Masculinity is presented as emotionally repressive. “We’ve constructed an idea of masculinity in the United States that doesn’t give young boys a way to feel secure in their masculinity, some make them go prove it all the time,” declares Stony Brook University professor Michael Kimmel, a prominent male feminist, in the film. There is absolutely no discussion of traditional masculinity as a positive force.
“Masculinity is not organic,” claims Occidental University professor Caroline Heldman in The Mask You Live In. “It’s reactive. It’s not something that just develops. It’s a rejection of everything that is feminine… through our popular culture, through our parenting styles, through our educational style, and through assumptions of natural manhood and maleness.” In other words, femininity is the baseline nature of humanity, and masculinity exists only in opposition to it, like darkness exists only in opposition to light. It is an unnatural, false social construction that is oppressive and damaging.
Afterward, Breitbart News was told, cadets attended workshops in which they were questioned about the films’ content. They were also addressed by featured speaker Bruce Stewart, a self-described “leading thought leader in the field of inclusive diversity,” who told them, “This whole thing around sexual harassment, sexual assault, discriminating and saying racist things has got to stop.” Below are a few other activities presented in the day’s curriculum:
Session 1 (gender-based Discussion):
• Cadets will bring a 3×5 card identifying 3 things that make them feel included/valued and 3 things that make feel excluded/no [sic] valued
• Cadets will discuss their gender socialization and how that socialization affects behavior and relationships
Live Honorably Lunch:
• Facilitators will invite cadets to share their thoughts from the morning discussion and examine how society/culture/West point, etc. shapes their gender norms and expectations
Session 2 (Role Play Scenario Development)
• Cadets will select from 8 topics per company and create role play scenarios
• Settings or topics for role play scenarios: Sexism, Racism, Cyber bullying, Alcohol, Mental Health, Sexual harassment or Sexual assault, Discrimination based no [sic] Sexual orientation, Cadet choice (other topic)
According to the complaints Breitbart News received, Honorable Living Day didn’t have quite the effect it should have. “I’m going to quit West Point. It’s no longer teaching me to be a leader of men. It’s teaching me how to be a victim,” said one cadet. “I’m being taught how not to be a man,” another added. “The real bias we need to talk about [is] why it’s scandalous to be conservative in a professional environment but ‘brave’ to follow the crowd and be liberal,” yet another cadet wrote. A fourth reported that “The guest speaker had us all make a black power sign and yell, ‘Fight the power!'”
“Fight the power” is, of course, a call to revolution against society’s purportedly oppressive power structures. What does that have to do with living honorably, eradicating sexual harassment or improving combat readiness? The answer is: nothing. It is an act of subversion, pure and simple. Asked about the Black Power salute, West Point responded to Breitbart News that it was unaware of any speaker encouraging it.
The stated mission of West Point is to produce graduates who are “leaders of character committed to the values of Duty, Honor, Country.” God knows we need such leaders today, but you produce them – among the male cadets, anyway – by empowering their masculinity, not vilifying it, and channeling it toward virtuous, honorable ends. You don’t produce them through propagandistic, feminist-driven documentaries that make young men feel devalued and dishonorable, through role-playing scenarios concocted by social justice academics, through deconstructing and demonizing “gender norms,” or through racially-charged revolutionary chants led by diversity “thought leaders.”
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Armorman - I usually enjoy reading your posts. This is not one of those times. I assume you probably do not have much interaction with cadets on a regular basis. My assumption is based primarily on this sentence from your post above: “Have a small limited harassment problem?” If you truly believe WP has a small problem, I would truly hate to see a big problem!

You also should not believe everything you read, especially when the article is based on quotations from anonymous cadets. People can say whatever they want about the Supe, and obviously they will do so, but they cannot honestly say that he’s ignored this issue. His predecessor didn’t ignore it either, but LTG Williams has kicked it up a notch. Keep in mind, both of these general officers played Army Football as cadets. Both of them are proven leaders who came up in the combat arms world (infantry and field artillery). To act as if neither of these gentleman know what they’re doing is beyond comical.

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Armorman, your post is the dumbest thing I have read today. I'm an instructor at WP right now and the stand down days have been a net positive; to have the entire post (cadets and faculty) to reflect on how to eliminate sexual assault is a good thing...not a bad thing. West Point has had consistently higher numbers of sexual assault reports for years, so I find your post very disheartening and dismissive of the issue.
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These are not quotes from "anonymous cadets", in case you missed them:


"West Point cadets were required to view Miss Representation and The Mask You Live In, two documentary films produced by Jennifer Siebel Newsom, the wife of Gavin Newsom, a California Governor so leftist he makes former Governor Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown look like former Governor Ronald Reagan.

Miss Representation examines “the ways in which mainstream media and culture contribute to the underrepresentation of women in positions of power and influence,” according to its website. It features commentary from such experts on masculinity as Cory “Spartacus” Booker, Nancy Pelosi, Katie Couric, Jane Fonda, Rachel Maddow, Rosie O’Donnell, and Gloria Steinem. Needless to say, these far-left ideologues have no inspirational insights to offer West Point’s male cadets (or the female cadets, for that matter).
The Mask You Live In focuses on the false “masks” of masculinity that boys and young men are pressured to wear in order to be considered men. Masculinity is presented as emotionally repressive. In other words, femininity is the baseline nature of humanity, and masculinity exists only in opposition to it, like darkness exists only in opposition to light. It is an unnatural, false social construction that is oppressive and damaging."


If I were forced to watch and listen to shit like that, I'd question what the hell I was doing at an institution which claims to train combat soldiers, and the only "dumb" thing about this entire sordid issue is the predictable academic notion that you need to denigrate the entire concept of "masculinity" in order to eliminate sexual harassment.

You CAN nurture Alpha Males for combat leader roles without permitting sexual harassment along the way. Attack and stamp out the behavior, not some misguided notion that it resulted from trying to be a man.

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These are not quotes from "anonymous cadets", in case you missed them:


"West Point cadets were required to view Miss Representation and The Mask You Live In, two documentary films produced by Jennifer Siebel Newsom, the wife of Gavin Newsom, a California Governor so leftist he makes former Governor Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown look like former Governor Ronald Reagan.

Miss Representation examines “the ways in which mainstream media and culture contribute to the underrepresentation of women in positions of power and influence,” according to its website. It features commentary from such experts on masculinity as Cory “Spartacus” Booker, Nancy Pelosi, Katie Couric, Jane Fonda, Rachel Maddow, Rosie O’Donnell, and Gloria Steinem. Needless to say, these far-left ideologues have no inspirational insights to offer West Point’s male cadets (or the female cadets, for that matter).
The Mask You Live In focuses on the false “masks” of masculinity that boys and young men are pressured to wear in order to be considered men. Masculinity is presented as emotionally repressive. In other words, femininity is the baseline nature of humanity, and masculinity exists only in opposition to it, like darkness exists only in opposition to light. It is an unnatural, false social construction that is oppressive and damaging."


If I were forced to watch and listen to shit like that, I'd question what the hell I was doing at an institution which claims to train combat soldiers, and the only "dumb" thing about this entire sordid issue is the predictable academic notion that you need to denigrate the entire concept of "masculinity" in order to eliminate sexual harassment.

You CAN nurture Alpha Males for combat leader roles without permitting sexual harassment along the way. Attack and stamp out the behavior, not some misguided notion that it resulted from trying to be a man.

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To wp1994, I would pose only the one-word question, "Why?" Why spend a full day of the entire Corps of Cadets on this topic? Why force everyone to watch transgender porn movies, or whatever these are. What's the problem we're trying to solve? Do we really have a sexual assault problem at West Point? How do we know that? Or do we mostly have cadets telling stories on other cadets because of their unsatisfactory, irresponsible sexual relationships? For an engineering school developing future officers for the US Army, that's the process we should be going through: define the problem with facts, not suppositions; attack the problem in the most efficient way possible; eliminate the problem.

The Ivy League is never going to accept West Point as a sister institution. We need to give that up, we can never be as woke as they are. We are unique, with a unique mission and history, and we need to focus on that and just being our bad bad selves. We ever have a graduate get out to Afghanistan and say, "Gee, I wish I'd had more sexual sensitivities seminars at school"?
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Armorman is 100% right, Williams is a SJW and the academy will be the worse for it. Hopefully, Monken can isolate the football program from this guy as much as he can but I am not optimistic.
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Williams is a career REMF/POG who has no clue what it takes to lead a combat unit. I was never a huge fan of Caslen but there was no denying that he was a warrior. Stuff like this has been going on for years but the saving grace was combat arms units were not mixed gender and thus mostly spared from it. Now that every MOS and Unit is mixed gender this stuff will be the norm (I am glad I am retired) Every mixed gender unit I observed while on deployment was like High School. Why would West Point be any different? Not to get political but my hope was Mattis was going to fix this stuff but his number one priority was to talk about how tough and smart he thought he was and hide under his desk the moment there was any controversy. Mad Dog's bark was much bigger than his bite.
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AirCav07 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:26 pm
Armorman, your post is the dumbest thing I have read today. I'm an instructor at WP right now and the stand down days have been a net positive; to have the entire post (cadets and faculty) to reflect on how to eliminate sexual assault is a good thing...not a bad thing. West Point has had consistently higher numbers of sexual assault reports for years, so I find your post very disheartening and dismissive of the issue.
Good grief, nobody is saying it is bad to try and eliminate sexual assault. You can have a block of instruction on sexual assault prevention without commentary and videos featuring left wing nutcases with an obvious agenda.
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Constant69 wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:33 pm
To wp1994, I would pose only the one-word question, "Why?" Why spend a full day of the entire Corps of Cadets on this topic? Why force everyone to watch transgender porn movies, or whatever these are. What's the problem we're trying to solve? Do we really have a sexual assault problem at West Point? How do we know that? Or do we mostly have cadets telling stories on other cadets because of their unsatisfactory, irresponsible sexual relationships? For an engineering school developing future officers for the US Army, that's the process we should be going through: define the problem with facts, not suppositions; attack the problem in the most efficient way possible; eliminate the problem.

The Ivy League is never going to accept West Point as a sister institution. We need to give that up, we can never be as woke as they are. We are unique, with a unique mission and history, and we need to focus on that and just being our bad bad selves. We ever have a graduate get out to Afghanistan and say, "Gee, I wish I'd had more sexual sensitivities seminars at school"?
I wouldn't hold out much hope for allowing a focus on being "bad bad selves." Wondering aloud if there is really a sexual assault problem at West Point is really troubling. I guess you are implying that under x number isn't a problem and/or that stats are padded by disgruntled female cadets who were "asking for it" in some way.

There are 20-25% female cadets also preparing to be officers and the days of it being just an engineering school are gone.

The program described seems way over the top but to think that an issue like sexual assault can just be stopped through "attack and eliminate" is pretty farfetched.
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