Well...I never saw that coming!

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Well...I never saw that coming!

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Always good to get a win. Even better when it's against Air Force. We can still win the CIC.

6 turnovers by Air Force is just unreal.

The big run by Daily was huge. And an 11 play drive to score the 2nd touchdown was great.

However, we still have a ton of crap to clean up.

11 penalties for 119 yards is never going to fly.

And the lack of offensive production is still an incredible concern. The 4th down stop gave us a short field and we took a FG. Then we get a fumble after the 2nd TD and another short field and take another FG.

No doubt that Defense showed up today and won the day. CLEARLY WON THE DAY!

Here are our drives:
1. 4 Plays, 75 Yards, TD, Daily for 62 yards (started at the Army 25)
2. 4 Plays, 6 Yards, FG (drive started at the AFA 34)
3. 11 Plays, 43 Yards, TD, Daily has 8 carries on this drive (started at the AFA 43)
4. 6 Plays, 24 Yards, FG, (started at the AFA 47)
5. 4 Plays, 1 Yard, Punt (started at the Army 30) Holding Call
6. 5 Plays, 15 Yards, Punt (started at Army 25)
7. 3 Plays, 4 Yards, FG (started at the AFA 25)
Half
8. 6 Plays, -1 Yard, Punt (started at the Army 37)
9. 3 Plays, 2 yards, Punt (started at the Army 20)
10. 7 Plays, 35 yards, Downs (started at the Army 30) Illegal Snap call set us back -5
11. 4 Plays, 7 Yards, Punt (started at the AFA 44) 3rd and 3 and called a pass (incomplete)
12. 3 Plays, 4 Yards, Punt (started at the Army 23)
13. 4 Plays, 13 Yards, End of Game (started at the Army 42)

Only 1 drive that was over 10 plays. In the 2nd half we failed to put any drives together. This same style of play cost us several games already. 3 Drives in the 1st half were on short fields and we only got 3 FGs. As bad as Air Force was today they still had more total yards which is amazing. Bryson Daily carried it 36 times out of 51 rushes. That's pretty remarkable. And if you account for the long run he only average about 3 per carry. He played solid so I'm not critiquing him just pointing out that he was the whole offense today but not super effective outside the long run.

It's pretty amazing to get this win considering what we've seen so far. I just know that few teams are gonna give us 6 turnovers in a game.

One thing was clear though. Monken has refocused this staff on running the ball. Outside a few passes we stuck to the ground.

Great to get a win. Still tons of work to do!

PD
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I believe this was the first win over a ranked AP opponent since the 1970s.
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Definitely great to break that streak too!
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ESPN headline- if they had journalists: "Air Force Suffers Historical Defeat to Army, Worst Since BYU '85"
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Oliphant wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:22 pm I believe this was the first win over a ranked AP opponent since the 1970s.
I don’t get why I keep seeing this. Didn’t we beat a ranked Navy team a few years back? Am I making that up?
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Thrilled with the win and the effort. Great defensive play. Daily is a tough player and runner, but he can't pass a lick and has not mastered the pitch - he's a fullback masquerading as a quarterback. The lack of offensive diversity is amazing. We shut the gates of the fort and hunkered down for the entire second half. Fortunately, the defense didn't break.

Why don't we use Robinson more and use his speed to run outside once in a while? I don't know what's up with Alston - will he ever play another down for Army?

In conclusion - I feel great and won't have to delete the recording for a change.
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prideandream wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:14 pm Always good to get a win. Even better when it's against Air Force. We can still win the CIC.

6 turnovers by Air Force is just unreal.

The big run by Daily was huge. And an 11 play drive to score the 2nd touchdown was great.

However, we still have a ton of crap to clean up.

11 penalties for 119 yards is never going to fly.

And the lack of offensive production is still an incredible concern. The 4th down stop gave us a short field and we took a FG. Then we get a fumble after the 2nd TD and another short field and take another FG.

No doubt that Defense showed up today and won the day. CLEARLY WON THE DAY!

Here are our drives:
1. 4 Plays, 75 Yards, TD, Daily for 62 yards (started at the Army 25)
2. 4 Plays, 6 Yards, FG (drive started at the AFA 34)
3. 11 Plays, 43 Yards, TD, Daily has 8 carries on this drive (started at the AFA 43)
4. 6 Plays, 24 Yards, FG, (started at the AFA 47)
5. 4 Plays, 1 Yard, Punt (started at the Army 30) Holding Call
6. 5 Plays, 15 Yards, Punt (started at Army 25)
7. 3 Plays, 4 Yards, FG (started at the AFA 25)
Half
8. 6 Plays, -1 Yard, Punt (started at the Army 37)
9. 3 Plays, 2 yards, Punt (started at the Army 20)
10. 7 Plays, 35 yards, Downs (started at the Army 30) Illegal Snap call set us back -5
11. 4 Plays, 7 Yards, Punt (started at the AFA 44) 3rd and 3 and called a pass (incomplete)
12. 3 Plays, 4 Yards, Punt (started at the Army 23)
13. 4 Plays, 13 Yards, End of Game (started at the Army 42)

Only 1 drive that was over 10 plays. In the 2nd half we failed to put any drives together. This same style of play cost us several games already. 3 Drives in the 1st half were on short fields and we only got 3 FGs. As bad as Air Force was today they still had more total yards which is amazing. Bryson Daily carried it 36 times out of 51 rushes. That's pretty remarkable. And if you account for the long run he only average about 3 per carry. He played solid so I'm not critiquing him just pointing out that he was the whole offense today but not super effective outside the long run.

It's pretty amazing to get this win considering what we've seen so far. I just know that few teams are gonna give us 6 turnovers in a game.

One thing was clear though. Monken has refocused this staff on running the ball. Outside a few passes we stuck to the ground.

Great to get a win. Still tons of work to do!

PD
We were up by 20 points on the road and Air Force was clearly rattled. Clearly the bat signal went out to be ultra conservative given our lead. Hard to argue with that decision. We lost at least two games from dumb turnovers in crunch time. I’m fine with the approach we took being up by 20.

Penalties aren’t good, but some of those were ridiculous calls.
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From all Army Football fans to the players and coaches--

THANK YOU for a wonderful afternoon of enjoying our team play an outstanding game of great, solid football. This is one for our memory book.
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ColdWarYushok87 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:58 pm
Oliphant wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:22 pm I believe this was the first win over a ranked AP opponent since the 1970s.
I don’t get why I keep seeing this. Didn’t we beat a ranked Navy team a few years back? Am I making that up?
You’re not crazy. We did beat a ranked Navy team a few years ago (2016), but that ranking was only in the playoff rankings. They were only “receiving votes” in the AP and coaches polls.

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I'm pretty sure we beat a one loss, ranked Navy team in 1996.
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