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wpgrad wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:41 pm
prideandream wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:42 am Hate to lose Modozie too. But will have to wait and see how he works out. Clearly has the body type and has film to prove he can play. But this is a massive step up in all around talent. I hope he does well. However he had one offer out of HS and was a Wide Receiver. That doesn't mean much other than the fact that things are moving really really fast for him. I'd be shocked if he got $1M to go. With a.$20.5M dollar cap coming this fall for payouts to all NCAA athletes $1M is a prized sum. In fact if I had to guess UGA may have gotten him on the cheap. But I'm sure there is real money that's offered that is probably hard to turn down as a young person and coming from Army. As far as the quality of the degree from UGA it isn't anywhere close. UGA can be tough to get in to but is nothing that carries significant weight by itself like a USMA diploma. But he's not going for the degree. He's going because it is as elite as you can get from a college football standpoint. If anyone can maximize his raw talent it's Kirby and staff.

I'm hoping he can start and be an impact player. I think it would be a heck of a recruiting tool for us. As much as I want guys to stay that's out of our control. What I do hope for is that we can take our recruiting to a higher level with all these changes and while we might lose guys every year I hope that we can start to stack more and more talent where replacing guys becomes easier and easier. Especially with the utilization of the prep school.

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To clarify, I was indicating $500k for 2 years. And, it is my understanding that while the colleges have to revenue share the 20.5, there is still NIL after that.
That might be the case. I haven't seen any numbers on his deal but that's probably reasonable based on their needs and the market as a whole. That's probably still cheaper than a 4 or 5 Star coming out of HS trying to fish the best deal.

There is still NIL but my understanding is that the NCAA, for whatever they still stand for, is trying to include most of the NIL money in this new payout system that was negotiated in the "House Settlement". Athletes can still get outside NIL deals but they are meant to be legit with some real work or representation behind them. Not sure how that will be enforced though. Maybe not at all . definitely still the wild Wild West.

As a side note, I'm interested to see how donors continue to respond. With the Athletic Departments starting to write checks will donors be advantaged to give money to the AD and let them manage it? I would think there is going to be a shift in the dollars to let the schools try to control it. But I guess it just depends on how much money the collectives actually have and what goals the boosters have. Really I don't know how all this money will shake out I just know that it's not over and at some point real serious contracts are going to show up holding players feet to the fire.

We shall see.

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wpgrad wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:16 pm
kfan12 wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 10:51 am
wpgrad wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:05 am Its true. We also are losing a starting DB

I cant blame the kid. He’s likely getting $1m in NiL and will still get a degree from a darn good school. Plus have better shot at the NFL. I’d probably have done the same
So he's not going to UGA?
i am assuming this is a joke about Georgia's academics but, for some facts, the average ACT of an admitted georgia student is 29. West Point is 30. Georgia is a very, very good public state college.

Man I don't want to have this argument. UGA = good school. But nothing that special about the education. Lots and lots of box checkers in state fight to get in which drives the average ACT and GPA. Plus they let in tons of out of state kids to capitalize on the out of state tuition. There are some good programs like the school of journalism and the Terry school of Business but that isn't the majority of kids there. Don't get me wrong. Lots and lots of really good kids there too. But not what I'd consider academically rigorous.

Athens is great town but super liberal.
Historically a huge party school. That hasn't changed.
National Titles in Football cast a huge shadow and suggest excellence
It's nearly 60% female!
There's a group for nearly everyone and it has greek life but isn't dominated by it like Alabama or Ole Miss

Good school. But not as special as people want you to believe.

BTW: I'm not against UGA. I' m a fan. Just drives me nuts knowing tons about it and having close close ties to the school how it gets portrayed academically.

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prideandream wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:01 am
wpgrad wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:16 pm
kfan12 wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 10:51 am

So he's not going to UGA?
i am assuming this is a joke about Georgia's academics but, for some facts, the average ACT of an admitted georgia student is 29. West Point is 30. Georgia is a very, very good public state college.

Man I don't want to have this argument. UGA = good school. But nothing that special about the education. Lots and lots of box checkers in state fight to get in which drives the average ACT and GPA. Plus they let in tons of out of state kids to capitalize on the out of state tuition. There are some good programs like the school of journalism and the Terry school of Business but that isn't the majority of kids there. Don't get me wrong. Lots and lots of really good kids there too. But not what I'd consider academically rigorous.

Athens is great town but super liberal.
Historically a huge party school. That hasn't changed.
National Titles in Football cast a huge shadow and suggest excellence
It's nearly 60% female!
There's a group for nearly everyone and it has greek life but isn't dominated by it like Alabama or Ole Miss

Good school. But not as special as people want you to believe.

BTW: I'm not against UGA. I' m a fan. Just drives me nuts knowing tons about it and having close close ties to the school how it gets portrayed academically.

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Ha I don't want to have this argument either cause the reality is that probably neither one of us care very much...but as you said, you go to Georgia and get a finance degree in the Terry College of Business...thats a darn good degree from a very reputable nationally recognized program.
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I'd be shocked if Elo Modozie leaves with a Finance degree from the Terry School of Business.

I have to be careful with this argument as my wife is a bulldog through and through.

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Georgia is a good state school, whose reputation has been boosted by football dominance over the past decade. But it's not in the same realm as UNC, UVA, Texas, Cal Berkeley, or Michigan.
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Army Frog Fan wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:36 pm Georgia is a good state school, whose reputation has been boosted by football dominance over the past decade. But it's not in the same realm as UNC, UVA, Texas, Cal Berkeley, or Michigan.
If I had walked the streets of Athens on a Saturday night when I was 18 and saw the talent level, my decision to go to WP would have been a much more difficult one!
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Army Frog Fan wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:36 pm Georgia is a good state school, whose reputation has been boosted by football dominance over the past decade. But it's not in the same realm as UNC, UVA, Texas, Cal Berkeley, or Michigan.
Per google, there are 1700 public colleges in the US. Georgia is 18th in the rankings.

Again, I don't give a crap, but you are talking about getting a degree from one of the top 20 public schools in the country per US new and world report. This isn't Bemedji State College
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wpgrad wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:07 pm
Army Frog Fan wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:36 pm Georgia is a good state school, whose reputation has been boosted by football dominance over the past decade. But it's not in the same realm as UNC, UVA, Texas, Cal Berkeley, or Michigan.
Per google, there are 1700 public colleges in the US. Georgia is 18th in the rankings.

Again, I don't give a crap, but you are talking about getting a degree from one of the top 20 public schools in the country per US new and world report. This isn't Bemedji State College
Share the ranking site you reference. Almost all of them have little-to-nothing to do with quality of education. UGA's inclusion in most lists is largely due to "reputation." I'd offer much of that has nothing to do with academics. That's not a hit on UGA, per se, but the value of these lists that are largely used to sell universities and drive admissions, is minimal.
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